We later civilizations . . . we too know that we are mortal.
We had long heard tell of whole worlds that had vanished, of empires sunk without a trace, gone down with all their men and all their machines into the unexplorable depths of the centuries, with their gods and their laws, their academies and their sciences pure and applied, their grammars and their dictionaries, their Classics, their Romantics, and their Symbolists, their critics and the critics of their critics. . . . We were aware that the visible earth is made of ashes, and that ashes signify something. Through the obscure depths of history we could make out the phantoms of great ships laden with riches and intellect; we could not count them. But the disasters that had sent them down were, after all, none of our affair.
Elam, Ninevah, Babylon were but beautiful vague names, and the total ruin of those worlds had as little significance for us as their very existence. But France, England, Russia...these too would be beautiful names. Lusitania too, is a beautiful name. And we see now that the abyss of history is deep enough to hold us all. We are aware that a civilization has the same fragility as a life. The circumstances that could send the works of Keats and Baudelaire to join the works of Menander are no longer inconceivable; they are in the newspapers. That is not all. The searing lesson is more complete still. It was not enough for our generation to learn from its own experience how the most beautiful things and the most ancient, the most formidable and the best ordered, can perish by accident; in the realm of thought, feeling, and common sense, we witnessed extraordinary phenomena: paradox suddenly become fact, and obvious fact brutally believed.
He does indeed! I am a keen Archaix student: finding his work on the Annuna and the Great Pyramid (and The Phoenix obviously) was one of the biggest 🤯 moments I have ever had. I linked to Jason's latest Hancock video as a rebuttal to the Younger Dryas chronology. Hancock appears to get this part wrong (accidental or intentional is not for me to judge!) but he still has much to offer (and I don't agree with Jason on some things as well, so definitely not a deal breaker).
Prepare to put some serious time aside! His information is astonishing. Plus, a very interesting character with a very interesting background story to boot.
LOL. What a mindless, indoctrinated anti-conspiracist.
I wonder how popular it will be?
I remember as a child going with my parents to my cousins' to watch a program on Erich Von Daniken's Chariots of the Gods as we didn't have a tv. I don't remember a thing about it except it seemed very exciting. ... supposedly all debunked ... I've seen stuff on YouTube about more sophisticated ancient civilisations and its very compelling. Will look forward to watching this.
Omg how good was that dummy spit. Direct quote for those playing along at home:
"That’s the danger of a show like this. It whispers to the conspiracy theorist in all of us. And Hancock is such a compelling host that he’s bound to create a few more in his wake. Believing that ultra-intelligent creatures helped to build the pyramids is one thing, but where does it end? Believing that election fraud is real? Believing 9/11 was an inside job? Worse? If you were feeling particularly mean-spirited, you could suggest that Netflix knows this, and has gone out of its way to court the conspiracy theorists."
Just... just perfect. Let the wombat holes engulf you.
But yes, I think it will be very popular: it is a perfect gateway to alternative ancient history for all the newly converted conspiracy theorists that Covid has created. I briefly looked at Chariots of the Gods when I had my Zechariah Sitchin phase. I'm not so sure about all that Ancient Aliens stuff now, but it is still a heck of a story.
I'd never heard of Graham Hancock till your article (thanks for introducing him to me) and then I looked him up and realise he's pretty famous - a journalist himself published by the Guardian among other newspapers, 19M views of Joe Rogan interview and best-selling author. Amazing how this noone's-ever-heard-of hack assumes he's in a position to denigrate in the manner he does. The fact that most of his "article" was simply cliched denigration-speak with zero analytical content says far more about him than about Graham of course. I mean, I don't oppose nobodies criticising somebodies of course - after all, it's really only nobodies who have the complete freedom to speak the truth but if you're a nobody simply denigrating a somebody with no content ... why bother, who'll listen. OK, he's kind of "somebody" cos he's published by the Guardian ... and he maintains the mainstream view I guess that counts for something with all the like-minded people who read him.
I looked up von Daniken and Graham and I see they've met and Graham has spoken at an event organised by Erich - they're friendly but Graham doesn't agree with him about aliens. But then I see there's a YT channel Ancient Architects that doesn't agree with Graham either - there's a number of debunking trails to follow in this domain I see - not that I think Ancient Architects is correct in his criticism necessarily having only come to this subject 5 minutes ago but at least the guy presents a case, he's not simply trying to denigrate.
Short YT criticising what he says about Gobekli Tepe
Believing 9/11 was an inside job? Good one, huh ... when it was all done hidden in plain sight. No psyop done more hidden in plain sight than 9/11. I know I've read a few of your posts but I don't remember if you recognise 9/11 as essentially a massive exercise where the only reality was destruction of buildings (planes and death and injury fake) or whether you believe that death and injury were real. If you still believe death and injury was real I invite you to read my post which makes a pretty concise case for staged:
Thanks for the links. I've been down the "no planes" and "no one died" rabbit holes (holographic planes was very convincing), although its been a while, so that was a good refresher. My awakening came from a religious angle: essentially that it was a ritual sacrifice carried out with the intention of further entrenching Zionist Christianity and Islam against each other. This still holds true if no-one actually died, although makes my hypothesis a bit less spicy. I guess if they could do it with Sand-- ahem, I mean, stop it you crazy person.
I know someone who was in NY and said he saw a plane and I believe he saw something, I don't think he's one of these people who thought he saw something because it was broadcast in the media 24/7, however, whether it was a real aeronautical object or a hologram (I agree hologram might be possible) it really doesn't matter as long as it wasn't something containing passengers who died and didn't otherwise kill anyone ... and there's no evidence of that.
Certainly, some people may have been deliberately killed so a ritual sacrifice may have occurred ... but in general the evidence is overwhelming that death and injury were staged and I reiterate what I say in my post: due to over a century of scientific/medical fraud you can propagandise health professionals to kill and injure people with a toxic jab but you cannot propagandise demolition professionals to semi-evacuate buildings. The basic fact is it simply wouldn't have been practicable apart from any other reason.
My experience is that any alleged false flag isn't, that is, the alleged crime is never committed, it's always staged so not just fake death and injury for 9/11 and Sandy Hook, Orlando, San Bernardino, Manchester / Boston / Mogadishu bombings and literally dozens of others. Also, for Bologna Station bombing 1980 (and I suspect all bombings in Italy in the 70s, the so-called Strategy of Tension period), Pearl Harbour and the JFK Assassination! - that's the only one I find hard to get my head around!
The most compelling evidence for the JFK assassination being a complete hoax is that the crowd is motionless as the motorcade goes past. Check it out.
... my reply just prompted the thought that now the very real crime of murder and maiming is being committed but no one's calling it a false flag. Interesting, no? No one's referring to it as a false flag.
Germ theory is the ultimate false flag: blaming nature for the consequences of artificial toxicity and then convincing people to increase that toxicity by injecting themselves with poison.
I really liked this article. I liked it more than all the others I've read of yours, and I liked them all. But, it seems you cut this one short. Maybe, I think that, because I wanted more.
I'm now trying to remember who won the history key in 12th grade at our school. It wasn't me but I did pick up the keys in Art, Choir and oddly to me at the time, Science. I was 33rd out of 333 in my graduating class as my Dad noted. Ken Wilbur is one of my favorite authors of all time he blends disparate backgrounds so well like he does in Spectrum of Consciousness.
I remember being asked at a young age in class what could be done to make history more teachable. I thought it was a mistake to arrange it chronologically because that assumes some sort of inevitable march of progress. From a moral stance my former Catholic nun mother was all about end times/the rapture coming when I was growing up. From a moral perspective we don't look very advanced at all right now.
I also long ago came to the conclusion that most of what we've been taught about history is not the real story. Even the wear of the Giza pyramids seem to indicate a great flood.and it makes no sense how these were constructed according to our "advanced" knowledge now.
"we are descended from giant men." The Killers, Flesh and Bone. Perhaps!
Thanks Amy. Love all those 3’s! Definitely a sign you were on the right path. Ken Wilbur was key in my pre red pill phase as well, and the Theory of Everything/Integral Theory heavily informed my thesis (before my PhD I did a now defunct post grad course called Integrated Human Studies which was basically formed around his writings).
From an academic perspective, all the End Times stuff is basically a dramatisation of Catastrophism, which turns it from a scientific principle that describes the cyclical nature of ecological and social systems into some act of moral reckoning and diving judgement (not that there isn’t some truth there, in that human ignorance can make the transition between cycles more destructive and the bottoming out more harsh).
Well, I never listened much to The Killers after Sam’s Town, but that was a banger: love that they sneak the truth bomb in right at the end.
The Killers are my favorite and one of two hometown bands, being Las Vegas locals, that I really love. From where my grandparents moved to in Las Vegas when I was a teenager I could see Sam’s Town (the hotel/casino) too. I think Brandon Flowers and co cut a deal with McCarren Harry Reid International airport because I always hear his lilting voice while waiting for flights. They still make music it just hasn’t been as popular recently.
In 2011 a Mormon guy I knew from Starbucks took me on a proper date to see a group that his friends insisted was going to become the next big thing. The band was playing at a large bar venue overlooking the Las Vegas Strip, which at best could fit maybe 300 people inside. I remember musing about the very Neptunian name of the group: Imagine Dragons. I’ve gathered they play in larger venues now.
Probably my favorite female vocalist recently is Sia.
From a natural perspective End times could be based on observations of collapse of populations in nature. That is the Malthusian principle in a nuthsell just overlaid to the human animal. Questions abound regarding whether we caused or created that or if we have the power to mitigate it. Is this based on a grand super cycle? Collective amnesia indeed!
This resonates! Thank you for sharing
Thanks for reading!
We later civilizations . . . we too know that we are mortal.
We had long heard tell of whole worlds that had vanished, of empires sunk without a trace, gone down with all their men and all their machines into the unexplorable depths of the centuries, with their gods and their laws, their academies and their sciences pure and applied, their grammars and their dictionaries, their Classics, their Romantics, and their Symbolists, their critics and the critics of their critics. . . . We were aware that the visible earth is made of ashes, and that ashes signify something. Through the obscure depths of history we could make out the phantoms of great ships laden with riches and intellect; we could not count them. But the disasters that had sent them down were, after all, none of our affair.
Elam, Ninevah, Babylon were but beautiful vague names, and the total ruin of those worlds had as little significance for us as their very existence. But France, England, Russia...these too would be beautiful names. Lusitania too, is a beautiful name. And we see now that the abyss of history is deep enough to hold us all. We are aware that a civilization has the same fragility as a life. The circumstances that could send the works of Keats and Baudelaire to join the works of Menander are no longer inconceivable; they are in the newspapers. That is not all. The searing lesson is more complete still. It was not enough for our generation to learn from its own experience how the most beautiful things and the most ancient, the most formidable and the best ordered, can perish by accident; in the realm of thought, feeling, and common sense, we witnessed extraordinary phenomena: paradox suddenly become fact, and obvious fact brutally believed.
Paul Valery-1919-Crisis of the Mind
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Have you watched Archaix on YouTube? He has much to say on Hancock's time-line! And a whole lot about history and our world in general.
He does indeed! I am a keen Archaix student: finding his work on the Annuna and the Great Pyramid (and The Phoenix obviously) was one of the biggest 🤯 moments I have ever had. I linked to Jason's latest Hancock video as a rebuttal to the Younger Dryas chronology. Hancock appears to get this part wrong (accidental or intentional is not for me to judge!) but he still has much to offer (and I don't agree with Jason on some things as well, so definitely not a deal breaker).
Thanks...I checked it out and subscribed and looks like a lot of good info
Prepare to put some serious time aside! His information is astonishing. Plus, a very interesting character with a very interesting background story to boot.
"Triggering the fuck out of The Guardian."
LOL. What a mindless, indoctrinated anti-conspiracist.
I wonder how popular it will be?
I remember as a child going with my parents to my cousins' to watch a program on Erich Von Daniken's Chariots of the Gods as we didn't have a tv. I don't remember a thing about it except it seemed very exciting. ... supposedly all debunked ... I've seen stuff on YouTube about more sophisticated ancient civilisations and its very compelling. Will look forward to watching this.
Omg how good was that dummy spit. Direct quote for those playing along at home:
"That’s the danger of a show like this. It whispers to the conspiracy theorist in all of us. And Hancock is such a compelling host that he’s bound to create a few more in his wake. Believing that ultra-intelligent creatures helped to build the pyramids is one thing, but where does it end? Believing that election fraud is real? Believing 9/11 was an inside job? Worse? If you were feeling particularly mean-spirited, you could suggest that Netflix knows this, and has gone out of its way to court the conspiracy theorists."
Just... just perfect. Let the wombat holes engulf you.
But yes, I think it will be very popular: it is a perfect gateway to alternative ancient history for all the newly converted conspiracy theorists that Covid has created. I briefly looked at Chariots of the Gods when I had my Zechariah Sitchin phase. I'm not so sure about all that Ancient Aliens stuff now, but it is still a heck of a story.
I'd never heard of Graham Hancock till your article (thanks for introducing him to me) and then I looked him up and realise he's pretty famous - a journalist himself published by the Guardian among other newspapers, 19M views of Joe Rogan interview and best-selling author. Amazing how this noone's-ever-heard-of hack assumes he's in a position to denigrate in the manner he does. The fact that most of his "article" was simply cliched denigration-speak with zero analytical content says far more about him than about Graham of course. I mean, I don't oppose nobodies criticising somebodies of course - after all, it's really only nobodies who have the complete freedom to speak the truth but if you're a nobody simply denigrating a somebody with no content ... why bother, who'll listen. OK, he's kind of "somebody" cos he's published by the Guardian ... and he maintains the mainstream view I guess that counts for something with all the like-minded people who read him.
I looked up von Daniken and Graham and I see they've met and Graham has spoken at an event organised by Erich - they're friendly but Graham doesn't agree with him about aliens. But then I see there's a YT channel Ancient Architects that doesn't agree with Graham either - there's a number of debunking trails to follow in this domain I see - not that I think Ancient Architects is correct in his criticism necessarily having only come to this subject 5 minutes ago but at least the guy presents a case, he's not simply trying to denigrate.
Short YT criticising what he says about Gobekli Tepe
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IPQvGRIS_Z4
Believing 9/11 was an inside job? Good one, huh ... when it was all done hidden in plain sight. No psyop done more hidden in plain sight than 9/11. I know I've read a few of your posts but I don't remember if you recognise 9/11 as essentially a massive exercise where the only reality was destruction of buildings (planes and death and injury fake) or whether you believe that death and injury were real. If you still believe death and injury was real I invite you to read my post which makes a pretty concise case for staged:
https://petraliverani.substack.com/p/both-believers-and-disbelievers-of
Thanks for the links. I've been down the "no planes" and "no one died" rabbit holes (holographic planes was very convincing), although its been a while, so that was a good refresher. My awakening came from a religious angle: essentially that it was a ritual sacrifice carried out with the intention of further entrenching Zionist Christianity and Islam against each other. This still holds true if no-one actually died, although makes my hypothesis a bit less spicy. I guess if they could do it with Sand-- ahem, I mean, stop it you crazy person.
https://downthewombathole.substack.com/p/911-and-the-conspiracy-against-religion
I know someone who was in NY and said he saw a plane and I believe he saw something, I don't think he's one of these people who thought he saw something because it was broadcast in the media 24/7, however, whether it was a real aeronautical object or a hologram (I agree hologram might be possible) it really doesn't matter as long as it wasn't something containing passengers who died and didn't otherwise kill anyone ... and there's no evidence of that.
Certainly, some people may have been deliberately killed so a ritual sacrifice may have occurred ... but in general the evidence is overwhelming that death and injury were staged and I reiterate what I say in my post: due to over a century of scientific/medical fraud you can propagandise health professionals to kill and injure people with a toxic jab but you cannot propagandise demolition professionals to semi-evacuate buildings. The basic fact is it simply wouldn't have been practicable apart from any other reason.
My experience is that any alleged false flag isn't, that is, the alleged crime is never committed, it's always staged so not just fake death and injury for 9/11 and Sandy Hook, Orlando, San Bernardino, Manchester / Boston / Mogadishu bombings and literally dozens of others. Also, for Bologna Station bombing 1980 (and I suspect all bombings in Italy in the 70s, the so-called Strategy of Tension period), Pearl Harbour and the JFK Assassination! - that's the only one I find hard to get my head around!
The most compelling evidence for the JFK assassination being a complete hoax is that the crowd is motionless as the motorcade goes past. Check it out.
Zapruder film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmz4lz6l8Fs
Frame-by-frame analysis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prGNxjJXog0
https://theunexpectedcosmology.com/agent-zapruder-the-john-f-kennedy-assassination-was-a-hoax/
https://theunexpectedcosmology.com/frame-313-the-jfk-assassination-was-a-hoax/
https://www.academia.edu/14445007/The_JFK_Assassination_A_Manufactured_non_Event_by_Miles_W_Mathis
Also, and this is no surprise, of course, the shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald is faked and very obviously so.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/lho-shot-tvphoto-comparison.html
I'll read your post.
... my reply just prompted the thought that now the very real crime of murder and maiming is being committed but no one's calling it a false flag. Interesting, no? No one's referring to it as a false flag.
Germ theory is the ultimate false flag: blaming nature for the consequences of artificial toxicity and then convincing people to increase that toxicity by injecting themselves with poison.
https://downthewombathole.substack.com/p/false-flags-and-the-germ-inversion
I really liked this article. I liked it more than all the others I've read of yours, and I liked them all. But, it seems you cut this one short. Maybe, I think that, because I wanted more.
Thankyou! Yes I did leave it hanging somewhat, mainly as an invitation for further investigation.
Fascinating insight and background thank you.
I'm now trying to remember who won the history key in 12th grade at our school. It wasn't me but I did pick up the keys in Art, Choir and oddly to me at the time, Science. I was 33rd out of 333 in my graduating class as my Dad noted. Ken Wilbur is one of my favorite authors of all time he blends disparate backgrounds so well like he does in Spectrum of Consciousness.
I remember being asked at a young age in class what could be done to make history more teachable. I thought it was a mistake to arrange it chronologically because that assumes some sort of inevitable march of progress. From a moral stance my former Catholic nun mother was all about end times/the rapture coming when I was growing up. From a moral perspective we don't look very advanced at all right now.
I also long ago came to the conclusion that most of what we've been taught about history is not the real story. Even the wear of the Giza pyramids seem to indicate a great flood.and it makes no sense how these were constructed according to our "advanced" knowledge now.
"we are descended from giant men." The Killers, Flesh and Bone. Perhaps!
Thanks Amy. Love all those 3’s! Definitely a sign you were on the right path. Ken Wilbur was key in my pre red pill phase as well, and the Theory of Everything/Integral Theory heavily informed my thesis (before my PhD I did a now defunct post grad course called Integrated Human Studies which was basically formed around his writings).
From an academic perspective, all the End Times stuff is basically a dramatisation of Catastrophism, which turns it from a scientific principle that describes the cyclical nature of ecological and social systems into some act of moral reckoning and diving judgement (not that there isn’t some truth there, in that human ignorance can make the transition between cycles more destructive and the bottoming out more harsh).
Well, I never listened much to The Killers after Sam’s Town, but that was a banger: love that they sneak the truth bomb in right at the end.
The Killers are my favorite and one of two hometown bands, being Las Vegas locals, that I really love. From where my grandparents moved to in Las Vegas when I was a teenager I could see Sam’s Town (the hotel/casino) too. I think Brandon Flowers and co cut a deal with McCarren Harry Reid International airport because I always hear his lilting voice while waiting for flights. They still make music it just hasn’t been as popular recently.
In 2011 a Mormon guy I knew from Starbucks took me on a proper date to see a group that his friends insisted was going to become the next big thing. The band was playing at a large bar venue overlooking the Las Vegas Strip, which at best could fit maybe 300 people inside. I remember musing about the very Neptunian name of the group: Imagine Dragons. I’ve gathered they play in larger venues now.
Probably my favorite female vocalist recently is Sia.
From a natural perspective End times could be based on observations of collapse of populations in nature. That is the Malthusian principle in a nuthsell just overlaid to the human animal. Questions abound regarding whether we caused or created that or if we have the power to mitigate it. Is this based on a grand super cycle? Collective amnesia indeed!
Fantastic. All that I can add is that I am also a hug fan of Sia.
Magicians and Fingerprints ... all time.
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